i can't talk to people with agendas in forums devoted to selling the land grab. i can talk to you. you know what it means. they are taking over the park. of course, if you think a tower in the park is for the people, then green and open space may seem an agenda without a forum. so maybe that's why i can't talk to them, neither their agenda nor their forum are mine, or the dogs, or the others who shall be voiceless in and around the park. we are the ones who don't have the money nor the will for the towering agenda.