i try out stuff on dogs as a first audience sometimes, if they show an interest. if  dog gets bored you know you have to rethink things. there is no question we live in an intensely adversarial society, would you agree? i think you do, yes. sure, sure, we can add that caveat. i refer to human society. and therein lies the rub, where the rubber meets the road, you see. we simply have to remember that we are in but not of the society, or we're in deep, interpersonally. gnome sane. like, if we are lovers, if we love, we dont hafta like nafta be adversaries, right? yes, yes, i totally agree, i'm really really listening.