as regards fascism, it's just a word, you can choose a different word, we can still use our words, and try again to communicate. peter said it's important to define number 47 as fascist as well as imperialist. 44 and 46 were just imperialists in the american tradition, whereas 47 is fascist. which is also the american tradition, i said. oligarchy is fascist. empire is fascist. this is the sorrow we're caught in. the sorrow of empire. it doesn't really matter which word we call it, we're all in the same sorrow, even the murderous thugs of the war machine.